The Spirit of God says, “I’ve planned a great Christmas for My people. It will be a Christmas that you’ll understand where I’m taking you to in this land. The flag will fly, and men will sigh, and they will know that I am here in this land. For Christmas will be the time that I will come and show you something new. There will be miracles on every street, there will be miracles in every family, and if you look for Me, you’ll find Me there. There will be miracles for every family. You will see the sign upon the tree. It will bring them together as one because of Me.””Strongholds and forces of hell who would try and detune the pleasurable sounds of Christmas–this prophet prophesies, ‘Nothing shall be successful in your attempt to bring blood over the Christmas season!’ The only blood that they shall know about is the Blood of My Son,” says the Spirit of the Lord. “There will be a miracle on every street. I have a miracle in every family. If you open up your eyes, you’ll find Me there. There will be joy to the world. The faithful will come. Silent night will bear His only Son. I’ll be there in the songs. Watch Me on the TV.””There are so many changes coming for 2008.” For God says, “The season of 2008 will bring about families being united, prisoners being freed, and drug addicts, alcoholics, atheists, and agnostics suddenly getting a glimpse of something they don’t really know and cannot pronounce nor interpret–but it is Me,” says the Lord. “This building is one of many that I will raise up for media.”
“When I raise up the President of the United States and fill him with My Spirit, there shall be unusual happenings taking place in America. They shall say, ‘Why are these unusual miracles transpiring only in certain places?'” God says, “Because if you cannot see water in the rock, your striking is in vain. If you cannot see water in the rock, your speaking is in vain. You must see what I have just pronounced today.
Another prophecy from Kim Clement, and the passage on the President of United States caught my eyes. I will be looking intently on this prophecy, as Kim Clement is in the habit of practise of making false prophecy. By far, The president of the United States is far from what’s prophesied.
My footsteps in the River of time 
Kim dares to prophecy the contradiction of the hour! I respect him highly as a prophet of God, and dare not speak evil of him, that man has done nothing but good for America. God Bless
PS! If one has any understanding of the prophetic, one will not post a blog like this one.
You should show more wisdom to weigh any prophecies made in the light of the scriptures. Kim Clement is a false prophet, whether he did good for America, it is another matter.
As for your understanding of the prophetic, you might have a great deal or probably nothing, but bear in mind, follow the counsel of the Scriptures on the whole you shall, not after things what your ear itches to listen. A prophet is judged by what they proclaim, if it comes to pass or not, that’s the test of the prophet.
And as for supporting America, a president who proclaims to be a christian send thousands to their deaths, sit at the ignorance of his people violating the laws in torturing the innocence, and signing charters to tear the land of Israel away in the name of peace is i would say, setting himself up against the Lord, and do bear in mind before you begin to talk like your another false prophet follower.
Kim Clement is a false prophet. And whatever he has prophesied, it will be in black and white and will be weighed if it comes true or not. And we will see.
“You should show more wisdom to weigh any prophecies made in the light of the scriptures.”
I second on that.
The Word of God is the authority and reference point for all prophecies made or for everything for that matter.
Okay, I will not carry on with this converstation, because it will only end up in useless contentions. I however want to leave the two of you with one thing. I am from South Africa where Kim is from, where Kim got stabbed in the chest and got saved the very same night after being a full blown drug addict. We are in contact with him on a regular basis, and that man broke down most of the racial barriers in South Africa by the anointing upon his life. However I will never judge a man unless I walked a road with him, I myself come from nothing, being drug addict and raised up by HIM literally from the dust. The same goes for the president of the United States, you are not in his position, so technically you look very foolish in the spirit judging as if you have been there before and have done better. The fact of the matter is that God raised these men up and placed where they. Kim is on the platform ministering to millions, not you, neither myself, that means that they have been approved. God Bless.
The fact that this man prophesized in the name of God and did not come true. I wonder what standard you hold these days with regard to Prophets of God. In the Scripture, prophet words must come true and that’s the STANDARD.
I might not know Kim and i never judge him as a BAD person, he might be the NICEST chap around, but a false prophecy made is a FALSE PROPHECY. Take it that the nicest guy can do something wrong like the NICE GUY who went around shooting in the Columbia High School.
While i did not judge their characters, esp George Bush, his action is open to judgment, just like you, you do not know me, yet you came here and give your mouthful of judgment to what i wrote, and that’s BONAFIDE judging if you do not realised.
Second, FALSE Prophets will come in the end days just as Jesus said they would, even among the Church, many will come in His name and prophesized but not all are from God.
It will do you much good to walk according to the Scripture in what it says it is, and what is not, as it is not.
Do you call Hitler blessed after all he was raised to the level of authority to influence millions in the Nazi Germany? So in a way, objectively, your basis of argument is seriously flawed.
I see where you come from especially with the last sentence, and I agree with you, so sorry about that one, but if we look at scripture, that Jonah prophesied jufgement over Nineveh and it never came to pass. Prophet Isaiah prophesied death over King Hezekiah, etc. But that doesnt make them false prophets, the fact is that one can prophesy something, it might be God’s intentions at that moment, but the peoples behaviour can change God’s intentions for them ultimately. The same with Nineveh, they all repented and God’s intentions for them changed from judgement and death to life. Kim, and all the other top prophets on the planet like Bill Hamon etc. says that you don’t judge a prophet by the accuracy of their prophecies but by their fruits. And by the way, 90% of Kim’s prophecies came true, incl. Katrina, 9/11 and personal onces I know of to some close friends and family members of mine. Kim said lately over t.v that the people must understand that prophets are still human, and can miss it now and then, but it doesnt make them false prophets. Larry King said to him that he doesnt care about those prophecies which didnt come to pass, but he cares about those who did come to pass. Sometimes the world has more discernment than us Christians. I am very close friends and a son to a prophet of South Africa who is very close friends with Kim, and speaks to him on a weekly basis, and I have seen people coming against him, calling him a false prophet etc. and I have seen their families wiped out and die, I have seen them go into complete poverty because God is very protective over His prophets becaus ethey walk a very persecuted road for being the mouth piece and demonstration of God’s heart and intentions for the hours. God Bless my brother.
I don’t know Kim from Adam, but here’s how prophecy works. Someone prophesies and this is judged by those who are gifted with discerning of Spirits. Regardless of the miraculous, if he has prophesied and it did not come true he has to be held accountable.
Typical Faith-Word, Name-it & Claim it Preacher.
If u want to be as gods & god to do ur bidding, than accept Kim.
” For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. “Genesis
If u want to be an unprofitable servant & wait on the Lord’s bidding like OT & NT saints, then reject Kim.
“So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. “Luke17
The choice is yours.
http://www.forgottenword.org/clement.html
letusreason.org/Popteac14.htm
letusreason.org/Popteac15.htm
apostasywatch.com/otherarticles2/page7.html
educate-yourself.org/cn/falseprophets10jul05.shtml
These false preachers preach/prophesize titles like,”How to Write Your Own Ticket with God”; “God’s Formula for Success and Prosperity”; “God’s Creative
Power Will Work for You”………..
In this false religion the believer uses God, whereas the truth of biblical Christianity is just the opposite: God uses the believer
through the Holy Spirit to accomplish HIS WILL.
A lot of the false preachers of today believe that the human mind and tongue contain a supernatural ability or power. So much so that when a
person speaks expressing his faith in divine laws, his positive thoughts and positive verbal expression allegedly produce a “divine
force” that will heal, produce wealth, bring success, and in other ways influence the environment. So, why pray at all if words have so much
creative force? Faith, according to the false prophets, is not submissive trust in God; Their faith is a “formula” by which to
manipulate the spiritual laws which they believe govern the universe.
They turn faith into a magical formula and words into some kind of abracadabra by which one may “get things from God”. (Jude 4 …..who
turn the grace of our Lord into lasciviousness a strong desire for material things.) But the teaching from this faith serves only to
justify their own lavish lifetyles and materialistic philosophies,while breeding a superstition that their words, when spoken positively,
will determine their fate.
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Joshua24.
Gee guys, I have already had a chunk of what Kim prophesied happen! By the way, that quote from Luke 17 is inaccurate – it should read, “Likewise, you also, when you do all the things that I command you, say that we are free (available, ready) to perform duty, that which we were obligated to do, we did.”
If any want to read an amazing testimony concerning Katrina and how prophecy works contact me at viasollertia@paradise.net.nz.
By the way, I have taken prophecies to several Pastors about their churches over the years, and have been judged and rejected as a false prophet repeatedly, and they have all experienced death, failure, loss of ministry and various disasters. If you don’t like the message, don’t shoot the messenger, those bullets richochet off our shields and bounce back, though it gives us no joy to say it.
We are commanded to test EVERYTHING, including the many so called prophecies, and in the days to come, many false prophets will come in His Name to say things we WANT to hear. Not that i don’t like the message, i am putting it to test, many Kim Clement’s prophecies did not come to pass, so according to the Scriptures, is he a false prophet? and what did the scriptures have to say about false prophets?
If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. Deu 18
I have had prophetic dreams and utterances since before I could even rememebr – I used to freak my mother out by saying what was to happen, or was happening when there was no way I could have known – and at 5yrs old. I have a son who is the same – he went to heaven when he was 6 – Jesus took him to show him around when he asked to know what heaven was like. Have you ever seen a child with a face glowing like a 500 watt bulb, grinning from ear to ear and excitedly telling you what heaven is like? Oh to have the faith of a child. I have been caught up to the throne room in prayer but I never had the grand tour courtesy of Jesus!
I have had a record of sharp words, but last year I got caught up in the politics of the day and began to prognosticate instead of prophecy – big mistake, and God corrected me in it. Yes. test everything, and I mean EVERYTHING – even preachers who seem to “know” the Word (which is actually a person, not a thing, (you kow, in the beginning was the Bible and the Bible was with God – NOT! – in the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and THE WORD WAS/IS GOD).
In fact, my experience is that people who quote the Bible to reinforce their own prejudices are nasty, twisted, judgmental, condemning, unloving, cruel, vindictive – and that is their good points! The trouble is that they think they know God but all they have is a darkened, miserable, judgmental religious darkness and they usually can’t spell or use correct grammar to save themselves. How do I know this – I used to be YOU (apart from the spelling and grammar) before Jesus got hold of me and began to teach me about a truly loving heavenly Father by showing me Him with a 16 yr old Palestinian suicide bomber heaven after I had said thaqt the boy would surely have gone to hell, and rebuking me for my attitude and reminding me that He called me to be a witness, not a judge.
You can judge (wegh) a man’;s words, you can judge (assay) his fruit and works, but you cannot judge the man – that is God’s domain, for “Vengeance is mine, says the lord, I shall repay.”
Now for all of you vengeance freaks and “Go directly to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars” types (like I used ot be – cringe), the translation from the original Aramaic text of Hebrews 10 reads,
30. For we know the One who said,
“Mine is the loyalty and I shall repay,”
and again,
“The Lord judges His people.
Great is the submission,
31. “To fall in the hands of the Living God.”
In other words, It is MY DEBT, says the Lord I will pay the price for sin, and I will never let you out of my hands.”
Are you up to the challenge I give to people, to help them discover the blessing and freedom of the Spirit that God has blessed me with? Just ask this simple question – “Jesus – do I really know you as you really are, and if not will you please reveal yourself to me as you really are.”
There, now that is not at all dangerous, or is it – you might just find as I did, that you do not really now Him, you just think that you do, and the clue to this is if you have any hatred in your heart for your brother and for your fellow man, for you are in darkness still. Just being blunt, y’all. Love ya all, Ian.
hey Ian
Really love the post, you are one of the nicest bloke to comment on defending these ministers. For me, i don’t hate them, but as a Christian and for me, the standard is the Scriptures, and everything I and everyone else said or profess either through teachings or prophecy, MUST be consistent with the scriptures, and if it is Prophecy, the scriptures and God of course, have a high standard. For my purpose, is to encourage discernment, and to encourage accountability of these prophets. 🙂
By the way, your post is great and an apt reminder that Love for God and for each other ought to be the commandment that binds us all in the body of Christ.
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#1894. Prophecy given to Raymond Aguilera on 4 December 2006 at 2:36 AM
Yes Reymundo, here it comes; the climate! It is going to change radically. Some of it is going to come very slowly, at other times it is going to come rapidly. The oceans are going to go up and come down; it is going to hit the land with forces that are going to kill people. The earth is going to shake, buildings are going to fall, people are going to die. These disturbances are going to be caused by the Spiritual world. It is part of the cleaning-up act. Places are going to get cold. Places are going to get hot. The old and the young are going to suffer. There are going to be power failures around the world, so strong ones that are going to shock people.
Some of the things that are going to happened are going be caused by man. Oil prices, the ability to get oil are going to be manipulated by certain people. These radicals don’t care about life. They care about certain principles in their religion. They don’t care who they hurt, who they kill. But the weather is going to change. Birth pains, Reymundo, birth pains! I understand that certain people of this world think they can rule by taking things into their own hands. They think they are clever. They think they are working in secret. It might not be believable, but the Lord Jesus Christ, Jehovah God, the Holy Spirit let certain things happen. That is all part of the plan. What is wrong will fall. What is stated in the Bible will come to be, exactly to the point.
People need to read the Bible because they will get an idea of the changing times, changing weather, the change and the evil that is before the planet. There is going to be a lot of confusion. People are not going to know what to do. How to do it! A lot of fear, a lot of anger, a lot of frustration, that is why the Body of Christ has to band together, make themselves strong, help each other, stop the fighting, the bickering, the finger pointing. You have to band together in Love.
It is hard, because the Body of Christ has not been shown by the leadership to get along. The leaders of man’s church fight among themselves. Some religions are being torn apart by homosexuality, some by leadership seducing their members. Some by robbing their members using their name it and claim it-ideas. They think they will find happiness in Heaven with that money. They think they are so clever, so great. Some will never see the writing on the wall until the devil is choking them to the point their eyes pop out and their tongue hangs out with the breath of money in their mouths. What a lot these pastors! What a lot! They believe they are above everything because they say the name of Jesus and they won’t be judged. So be it! So be it!
What an awaking they will have when they see the Lord coming in the clouds. The bad part about it is their large followings of people that number into the thousands, will fall into the pit with these charismatic pastors that are so blind, so deaf. The Bible states it: “The blind leading the blind”. These people, these poor people seeking man instead of seeking Jesus Christ of Nazareth, placing man on the throne, instead of humbling themselves before the feet of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, they support these mega-churches that are deaf, blind and dumb, where you have the followers of the True Church starving, barely making it. Man is so dumb, and yet he thinks he is so intelligent.
Since 1983, God has shown me a succession of visions of the end of days. The first was perhaps the most radical – I got on my knees to pray with our intercessory team (all 3 of us) and wham, I was in an open vision – taken about 30 years into the future. I was stuck in it, don’t think I could have gotten out if I tried.
I was standing in front of the Cathedral, in the city of Christchurch, NZ, where I live. All of you Google Earth guys can look it up. The people walking past were shrouded in darkness and stooped over – they were heavy burdened and I sensed their hopelessness – as if all their hope had been taken from them. I knew in my spirit that this was a time of severe depression – financially and spiritually. A pall of cloud hung low over the city, and it began to fall – I saw then that it was the Glory Cloud and the weight of it caused the people to fall down, clutching at their inward parts and writhing on the ground – they we saying what must we do to be saved. The Lord spoke to me and said to look to the left (south). The main street of town stretches South to North through the central square, crossed by a succession of streets and at every one was a pillar of fire the size of a man. He then said look right and the same thing was evident. He then said to look at myself,and I was a fire from the loins up, and a fire from the loins down, and He said, “Now speak, Son of Man.”
As I spoke, Iwas aware that the personal me was like the little guy in the head in Men In Black – I was reduced to nearly nothing, but I was enclosed in Christ, I could see myself as God did, wrapped in righteousness, and as I spoke, it was not me but Christ in and on me, and the words were as fiery swords, piercing the hearts and circumcising, and the people lept up, their color returned and they danced and glorified God.
He said to me that in one day that 50,000 would be saved, and in three months, the whole nation would be swept into the kingdom and then the fire would go around the world. He also said to not despair as He had 5000 separated to Himself who had not bowed the knee to Baal.
I have had this vision reinforced by many others over the years, I have been shown how Jesus will build His Church – that it will be outside of ANYTHING that has gone before – hence in the original vision the doors of the Cathedral were closed behind me – and that it was something He would do and not some (purpose driven) man with a plan.
For all you Americans and others, Christchurch is the most distant city from Jerusalem, and NZ is the first country of significance to sse the light of the new day. About 6 years ago, I was caught up to the throne room, and to cut a long story short, Jesus released an anointing at the meeting which He both told me and showed me that it went right around the world – He said that it was an activation anointing, to make ready His labourers for the end time harvest of souls. (I believe that this year will be a time of entering into His rest – the 7th year of the cycle, in readiness for the predicted crash of 2009? There will be a lot of rumors this year of war and such, but it is time to press into God’s promised rest and to find the strength in adversity that only His joy can give.)
One of the most compelling visions I had invoved a tidal wave of the Spirit which would sweep away the old order but would wash through the New, cleansing and confirming and baptising it and that anyone who stood against what God was doing in this time would be swept aside – He aslo told me emphatically on a number of occsaions that it would be a totally Sovereign move and that He would make ready His servants at His time, and just to learn to walk in love and get the sin of hatred and partiality out of my life.
I could crack on about this all night, but if your heart is to be a part of this move of God, the key is to ask Him to increase you in your perception of grace and understanding of His higher Way – this is vital – there is no room for hatred except to hate what God hates – merciless injutice, cruelty, vindictiveness, frowardness, unjust measures, stinting avarice – let Him convert you into a lover like Jesus, and then you will find that your witness can turn a Saul into a Paul, and a Simon the sorcerer into a saint. After all, He did say the works that I do, and even greater SHALL YOU DO!
I have seen Church in heaven, I have seen the Billions upon Billions worshipping God – if you only knew just how big He really is and how when He says that He is not willing that any should be lost, but that all should come to know Him, that He really means it, for God is not a man that He should lie! As He said to me once in a vision of a whole city and nation coming to God – “Ian, I am not a loser, don’t let the devil ever tall you that I am, it is he who is the loser, not Me.”
And I guess I should zip it about spelling mistakes – I just re-read my last post – me and my pride – DOH!”
By the way, I know a bunch of you guys will refer to your scriptures that APPEAR to contradict me, but I can answer them all, as God has worked me over well in this area.
Many years ago He told me that He is LOVE and He is LIGHT and in Him is NO DARKNESS or CONTRADICTION, and that any apparent contradiciton is in my understanding, and that if I maintained true to this, I would not err far from the Truth. Whenever I find one of those scriptures which make me go “Hmmm…” I just hand it to my Teacher and await the lesson. “For you need not that any man should teach you, but the anointing which abides in you will teach you all things and lead you into all Truth.” 1 John 2:27. If they took your Bible away from you, would you still KNOW THE WORD OF GOD and hear Him for yourself? Start practising it now – try putting you Bible down and only referencing it as and when He tells you to, and hear Him speak to you – He is in there and He knows everything you do, say, think or contemplate. Let Him instruct you in His righteousness for His Name’ sake. Then the Bible will truly become alive to you and be a joy to behold, and not a place of constant, carping condemnation where you find your Word weapons to wage your warfare.
Here is a classic example – Jesus said that if someone would not receive correction, that we should regard them as a sinner and a publican. I once heard a very prominent “minister” use that as a weapon, and sensed it was from a wrong motive so I inclined my heart to Jesus and He told me to go and read up on what His atttude was to publicans and sinners and how He treated them. HE ATE WITH THEM, LOVED THEM, WELCOMED THEM, FORGAVE THEM AND HEALED THEM and it drove the Pharisees NUTS!
See, the point is YOU can pretty much make the Bible say whatever you want it to, so I am not really impressed by people who can quote scripture, but I can smell a hypocrite by the scent of the leavening and their eyes always betray their lies.
OK – last contribution – for now.
I learned a big lesson about prophets and prophecy when Katrina happened. I had heard various prophecies foretelling hurricanes hitting the Southern US, particularly concerning New Orleans. When I heard that a hurricane was headed that way, I simply concluded that it must be what was prophesied to happen, and that there was not much one could do about it.
I was a my business when my son suggested that I should turn on the computer and check out the news. I saw a Reuters report where a Louisiana woman was pleading to the world for help, “Please, dear God, help us, pray for us.” As she did, it was like her spirit came out of the computer and connected with mine and her need literally grabbed my spirit. It made a demand on me to act and I felt chastened that I could be so indifferent to the plight of others.
I asked the Holy Spirit what I should or could do, and He said that He wanted me to pray “Over” the storm. I began to pray and went straight into the Spirit and found myself literally “over” the storm – and the He said to speak to the storm and to COMMAND IT TO DIMINISH AN TRUN TO THE RIGHT. I could feel that I was contending with other spirits and “voices” at work that were literally “in the storm” but that I was coming from the higher pplace of love – I could literally see them in it, swirling vortices of nasty vicious spirits of judgmental people . I asked Him what this was and He said, “These are the WIIL/WORDS of those who are calling this storm into being – they are calling down judgment upon New Orleans.” (“Lord, shall we call fire down from heaven?” “You do not know what Spirit you are of!”)
The next morning the Holy Spirit told me to turn on CNN and see what happened – the storm had taken a sharp right turn (sorry Biloxi, you will need to ask God about that one), and had diminished in intensity, hitting New Orleans a glancing blow. I asked Him why it had happened this way and He said that the degree of deliverance was according to their faith – that they had gotten what they could believe for, and that I should not be shaken in mind, and I should consider that if the storm had hit New Orleans front on and full force, that there would be no more New Orleans, and that many, many more would have died.
The thing which stunned me most about this was how I sensed that the witchcraft which was calling this storm into being was being perpetrated by people who called themselves Christians, and who were not, and did lie, and were a synagogue of satan – and that they had been manipulated by evil forces into calling their judgmentc down on to New Orleans, similar to the way they have been complicit in the “holy” crusade of the so called “war on terror”.
You do not have to knowingly serve the devil to do his bidding – even Jesus said to Peter, “Get out of my face, adversary, for you savor NOT of the things of God, BUT OF THE THINGS OF MEN!” When will we ever get that one?
The Lord spoke to me about how the power is in our hands, to bind and to loose, to permit and to forbid, to release and to retain, and that the one who comes from the higher place and who is rightly aligned to the Will of Almighty God will manifest the greater authority and of how He looks for ONE MAN, for the ONE intercessor who will speak HIS WILL into the earth – the man who is after HIS OWN HEART. It is not only the “One Man” who He looks for, but the Man who is prepared to be ONE.
Subsequent to this, I have been taught that the key to recognizing God’s TRUE prophets and the judgments they speak of is that God always tempers justice with mercy – in every instance the consequences of sin are proclaimed, the merits and meaning of mercy are advocated as the reason for the warning. It is the proclamation of life and death, and the emphasis is and should be on LIFE – death is only the result of not choosing LIFE. God says, CHOOSE LIFE, so that you may live. The true prophet of God is also unerringly accurate and learns to hold his tongue lest he issue a false or erroneous prophecy of presumption, and to prophesy out of his own spirit and desires, or to satisfy the desires of others for gain or pain.
Just because a true prophets words may be tempered or conditioned by the response of repentance, do not confuse this with the false prophet, who will speak that which does not come to pass (witness Y2K) or the perverted prophet, whose working will be after the similitude of Satan, with all lying signs and wonders and deceiveableness.
Shalom.
###1857. Prophecy given to Raymond Aguilera 10 November 2006 at 10:45 AM
Pastors, teachers, and leaders with authority in the Body of Christ: The scriptures below are pointed and are in your face. Drop your worldly ways or face the penalties of death. You can fool others but you cannot fool Me. I am not playing a game with you. Take off your mask of fantasy Christianity and teach with the Spirit and reality of God. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ, but there is death for those who play worldly games with My Word. Stop trying to act like you are some kind of movie star and get real or I will give you the back of My Hand. And if you think I am joking, keep doing what you are doing. Take your sports, worldly music and movie acting out of My Church.
During the end times that are coming up you will need the Power of the Holy Spirit to survive those troubled times. Remember the back of My Hand is there. But if you listen to this Word with the Spirit of God, which is REAL, I will save you pastors, teachers and leaders of this fallen Church. I am sick and tired of listening to your false words with big smiles.
Did you hear Me? Or are you waiting for the back of My Hand? I am in your FACE and I am going to stay there until you change or die. Get on your knees and pray to Me and you better be sincere, because I can read your heart. I Love you all, but I cannot take anymore of your sinful nature. Now proceed and convince Me you have changed in the Spirit of God. Or Die with the devil, your close friend. So be it! So be it! So be it!
From KJB:
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Now as for My Beloveds who follow Jesus Christ and are filled with the Holy Spirit: If you see your pastor or church leader acting like I have just stated and they do not seem to have changed their ways, give them this Prophecy. Then stand back and say nothing to them. Let your Lord take it from there. There are many pastors and church leaders who are so lost they would not know Jesus Christ if He walked into their church. They are deaf, blind and without the Spirit of God. So be it! So be it! So be it!
Well, well Raymond – that was as fine an example of someone speaking out of there own spirit as I have ever witnessd! I did a Biblegateway search and could not find anywhere the phrase “back of my hand” so please illuminate my apparent ignorance and quote chapter and verse. Or does it come from your own earthly father’s disposition to give you the back of his hand instead of a comforting cuddle?
All “prophets” who pretend to speak for God and then try and authorise it by using misapprehended scripture give themselves away and anyone with sufficient discernment can see right thorugh this sort of thing. “Prophecies” such as this one have just enough apparent “truth” to deceive the witless and gullible and fearful, and I am amazed it is even posted here as if it has some credence or indeed came from God Himself. If I am wrong, may God correct me, but if I am right, may God correct you, Raymond – so let’s just agree that God is God and that He will correct all who need it. By the way, the word Amen which is derived from the Aramaic Aa-meen means “It is so”, not so be it – or in other words, “Verily, verily” or “Surely, surely”. The context in which you appear to have used it connotes a “so there!” attitude – were you by any chance one of those “prophets” who was calling down judgment upon New Orleans??? Hmmm…
Just for the record, you cannot quote Romans 8:1,2 without carrying on and qualifying it with 8:9, “You, however, live not through the flesh, except by the Spirit, if truly the Spirit of God abides in you.”
A few years back, I watched a lady getting all hyper-spiritual ina meeting and I just happened to be reading Romans 8 at the time, when I went to judge her in my own heart as to her actions, when the Spirit of God corrected me with verse 9 and challenged me with, “Do you believe that my Spirit is in that woman”, and I knew her well enough to know that it was, so I meekly said “Yes, Lord” and He said, “Then how can she be in the flesh?” He then showed me that the second part of 8:1 is not a conditional statement but it is a statement of condition, and that it is minds twisted by punishement and conditionality which pervert the true meaning of scripture into warring and weaponry instead of a washing and well-being, and that they are more concerned with being right than with being righteous, so even in offering this I too must be very circumspect that I am not doing the same thing!
You see, the trouble is that we do not really know God the way He really is, so we store up wrath for the day of wrath, and sadly most Christians do not even know what this means as well.
I close with a quote from Romans 2, the VA Aramaic Version. NB verse 4.
1. Because of this, the Spirit is not speaking through you, O, human being, as you judge your companion, for against that which you judge, you shall also revert.
2. And we know that the judgment of God will be heavy against those who revert [to that same condition.]
3. What do you suppose then, O, human being, that you should judge those who revert thus, while you are also going back to the same thing, do you think you will run away from the judgment of God?
4. Or is it His generosity, forbearance and the bounty that he gives you, that you resent, not knowing that it is God’s purpose to bless you?
Lit. Ar. id. construction: “Or against the wealth of His fulfillment and against the extension of His spirit and against the wealth that he gives you that you [hold in] contempt, and you do not know that the fulfillment of God is to bring you to blessings?”
5. Except for the hardness of your heart that does not repent, you set yourself up to inherit the wrath of the day of wrath, and the revealment of God’s righteous judgment.
6. He that repays every human being according to his actions.
7. To those who [express] the Hope [of the Kingdom] through good deeds, seeking glory and honor and not corruption, He gives them Life to [the end of] the universe.
8. Those, however, who refuse and do not adhere to the truth, except they adhere to abomination, He shall repay them [with] anger and wrath…
11. For there is no hypocrisy with God.
Shalom, Ian.
Ian Williams, I invite you to come by lbolm.wordpress and share your views there as well. We seem to have a common view on some matters.
Of course you all can drop by.
Love in Christ Jesus
My prayer is that everone who post or reads here will be just as concerned for souls for Jesus as they are to get thier point across or leave a prophecy. By the way I love you Kim Clement as a sister in christ and I want you to know that if God be for you who can be against you my brother.
Shalom,
Melody Brown
Here’s a prophecy that unfortunately is going to be true. Those of u who have unadvisedly spoken against God’s servant in a spirit of unGodly judgement will have a choice. The unfortunate aspect is that most of you will make the wrong choice. Here’s the Choice: Openly repent or be openly put to shame plain and simple. Your life and the bitterness of your own judgement against your borther and My prophet will display who is indeed “false”.
Alas there I’d one of u who will heed these words and live peacefully. Check this prophecy again on June 18, 2013 to understand just how true it really is and how unfortunate the choice of some of these who ridicule Kim and this very message
We will see if what Kim prophecy in 2008 will come true in 2008. That’s the reason why his prophecy is posted here, so we will know, and to check if he is a false prophet. You do not need to wait till 2013.
I was asked by a Pastor what I saw prophetically for his church, and before I could even think, these words came out of my mouth – “God wants to put amatch under it”. Now he had been praying for revival as his church was in severe decline – he had also been praying for someone to come and fill his post, and he thought that I was sent of God to this purpose. I had felt a strong call to this city and place and yet when I spoke the prophecy, I saw the church being destroyed.
It was a few days later when this man was turned against me by whisperers and backbiters from my own community, that he labeled me a false prophet and told his flock not to have anything to do with me.
Now the thing with being a prophet is that you learn to live with rejection and seeing people suffer for their rejection of the Word. Within 6mths, he had left the ministry, and 18mths later there was not one stone left upon another, and the resulting rubbish pile was burned.
On the other hand, the dire threats of doom should never stop us from testing the prophecy or the prophet or quieten healthy dissent – this is not faith at work but fear trying to impose its authoritarian rule. When I had heard that this man had done what he did, I knew he did so out of ignorance and the misrepesentation of others, so I prayed that it would not be held to his account.
The person who maligned me ended up in jail for two years on fraud charges – but he did come out a much nicer person! I too have had what seems to more than my share of troubles, and if I should make the mistake of inadvertently speaking out against another in contradiction to the Cardinal Commandment “To love one another as He first (originally and from the beginning of creation) loved us”, then I soon find out about it! Things go pear shaped pretty quickly! Be quick to hear, but slow to speak, for if a man would judge himself, he would not be judged.
There is a spirit-filled president coming – one who is just beginning to be heard. For years, he has been prophesied to be the first African American president. He is a man of God and a great leader. His name is General Jerry Curry. You can read all about his candidacy at CurryForAmerica.com and can see him speaking to all the issues of the day. If there is a brokered Republican convention, then anything is possible. General Curry is the best hope for success in the general election. Jerry Curry would add a great deal to the Republican ticket, being a general, a true Reagan conservative, an evangelical Christian, an African American, and a proven leader, having served the US Army for 34 years and then served in the administration of three presidents. Please pray for America to discover the wonderful president waiting in the wings…
Didn’t even get past the first line and spotted a false prophet.
Yahuweh (God’s name) would never say anything concerning Christmas in a positive light, as the event is Satantic and stems from paganism, to which the Catholic church embrace.
Astarte (from which we get Easter) claimed divine conception when the sun crossed the equator at the vernal equinox, the event called Easter today and is celebrated by pagans. 9 months later she gave birth on 25 December to the sun-god Tammuz, hence the reason God despises Christmas. At the age of 40 Tammuz died due to being gored to death by a wild boar, hence the reason pagans celebrate the event called Lent. Pagans worship the bull because the sun rises in the Taurus constellation.
These satanic events are Satan’s substitutes for God’s 7 Feasts which tell us His redemptive plan for mankind. For your information, Yahushua’s birth was during the Feast of Tabernacles, about October on the Gregorian calendar time, when God came to Tabernacle with man, He will come again and Tabernacle with us when He returns.
Interesting passages to consider:
Ezekiel 8:14-15 links God’s hatred for Lent, when pagans (and Catholics) fast for Tammuz.
Jeremiah 10:1-16 stresses God’s hatred for Christmas trees as it’s a pagan idol.
Ezekiel 13 is a prophecy regarding these types of prophets who prophecy peace when there is no peace, they whitewash their words.
Love in Messiah Yahushua
As with all prohecy, people read into what they want to believe not what the true meaning of a message. There are countless messages being delivered through people and via Holy apparitions every week, people will always mock or cast off what they dont want to hear. I am a Christian and I believe in the Lord but I know this to be true, the false prophets that we have been warned about in the scriptures do not relate to people like Kim Clement they relate to people of REAL political influcence abusing the trust of the innocence, defiling its people of all graces and refusing people to believe the truth. The trust is simple GOD is in our hearts, in each and every one ofus, Jesus often preached this and all we need to do is look into our hearts and we will find the truth for ourselves. If all that Kim does is make people feel good about themselves well I’ll have a dose of that. People should learn to love and to give tolerance to others not demonize them.
By the way, Christmas trees were a German invention during the later part of the 19th century it represents the giving and receiving of gift’s hence putting gifts under the tree, it isnt a satanic adornment but albeit a material accessory for the christmas period.
People read far too much into scriptures, history, folklore etc. The only satanic message behind modern day christmas is the greed the banks, manufacturers and retailer show during this period to seduce money from people who desperately need every bean they can get.