Joel Osteen says Mormonism is Christianity

3 01 2008

Do you buy that? A pastor of outstanding and significant influence, endorsed the cult Mormon as Christianity. With a frivolous response without calculated thoughts about key doctrinal stances of Mormonism, Pastor Joel Osteen come across as an uninformed minister with no convictions.

See the above video of Joel Osteen interview with Fox News Sunday on the 23rd Dec 2007, and the related article from the Apprising Ministry



5 responses

3 01 2008

How sad. I did a post awhile back on Osteen, and a few of his fellow cronies and false preachers. This is kind of funny that I see this tonight, though, because while I was at mid-week church service tonight the speaker was talking about those wolves who steal the sheep away from the flock, and afterwards a friend mentioned to me that the person who came to mind was Joel Osteen.

7 01 2008

Unbelieve-able “mistake” on national tv???

But I also think that the questions were intentionally planted to catch Osteen off guarded with a political agenda from the news station.

The agenda was not so much to find out about Mormon’s truth but to launch an attack on the mentioned Senator using Osteen.

So I guess in avoiding being pulled into this, Osteen chose to be diplomatic with his answers.

29 01 2008
Michael Aulia

Yea, but you are not supposed to be “diplomatic” when it comes to God; it’s the same thing as betraying Him, doesn’t it..?

9 06 2008
Nate in Utah

I am a Mormon. I believe that Jesus Christ is my Savior and I have a relationship with Him. I try to love and serve my neighbor, be a good husband and father, and grow spiritually every day of my life. I don’t understand what is not Christian about that. I am a Christian. Joel Osteen gets that, and he’s right – he’s not in a position to judge and neither am I and neither are any of you. I feel the same way about him and his religion as he does about mine. God will judge, but we should live a good Christian life an worship Jesus Christ and leave the judging up to Him.

25 06 2009

Here is an article on science and Mormonism that I published awhile back in my blog “Interlingua multilingue”:

Science and the Mormons

The Mormons are a religious sect that emerged from Christianity in the United States in the Nineteenth Century. They added to the Bible their own scripture, the Book of Mormon, translated by Joseph Smith from an original text in a language he called Reformed Egyptian. According to the mythology of the Mormons, in 1827 the angel Moroni gave Smith these texts, which were engraved on golden tables. Smith could understand them without learning their language through the divine magic of two special lenses that he used to read them while he translated them.

Smith and his followers were persecuted by traditional Christians, who forced them to travel slowly and with great sacrifices until they reached what is now Utah, where their descendants dominate the religious and social life of this American state.

According to the Mormons, the Indians of the Americas came from Egypt more than 2,000 (two thousand) years ago. They used this myth to convert many Indians to their religion. “We were taught that all the blessings of our Hebrew ancestors made us a special people,” said Jose a Loyaza, a lawyer in Salt Lake City, the capital of Utah. “And this identity gave us a sense of transcendental affiliation, a special identity with God.” But Loyaza gradually learned that there was another outrageous irony to his faith.

He rejected his religion after learning that evidence provided by comparative DNA studies between American Indians and Asians conclusively proved that the first humans that migrated to the Americas came not from the Middle East but from Asia.

For the Mormons this genetic confirmation of the origin of the Indians in the Americas is a fundamental collision of science against religion. It is in direct conflict with the Book of Mormon, which, according to their religion, is a completely error-free historical work that must be interpreted literally.

The Book of Mormon is also fundamentally racist. It narrates that a tribe of Hebrews from Jeruselem went to the Americas in 600 B.C. and split up into two groups, the Nephites and the Lamanites. The Nephites carried the “true” religion to the new world and were in constant conflict with the Lamanites, who practiced idolatry. The Nephites were white (in 1980 the Mormons changed the word to “pure”), and the Lamanites received from God “The curse of blackness.”

The Book of Mormon also narrates that in 385 A.D. the Lamanites exterminated all the other Hebrews and became the principal ancestors of the American Indians. But the Mormons insist that if the Lamanites returned to the “true” religion (Mormonism, quite naturally), their skin would eventually become white like the skin of the Nephites that their ancestors had exterminated.

But despite these outrageous racist insults, many Indians and Polynesians (who also, according to the Mormons, are the descendants of the Lamanites) converted to Mormonism instead of telling the Mormons to go fuck themselves. (Through some perverse mechanism in human psychology, these converts are like homosexual priests who support the Roman catholic church or other gay people who support any type of Christianity.)

“The fiction that I was a Lamanite,” said Damon Kali, a lawyer in Sunnyvale, California, whose ancestors came from Polynesian islands, “was the principal reason that I converted to Mormonism.” He had been a missionary for the Mormans before he discovered that genetic evidence proved that the Lamanites were only a religious myth, and he could not continue his efforts to convert others to Mormonism.

Officially the Mormon church insists that nothing in the Book of Mormon is incompatible with the genetic evidence. Some Mormons are now saying that the Levites were a small group of Hebrews that went to Central America and after many generations of marrying with the natives they met, their Hebrew DNA disappeared into the DNA of their neighbors.

In 2002, officers of the church started a trial to excommunicate Thomas W. Murphy, a professor of anthropology at Edmonds Community College in Washington, an American state at the extreme northwest of the continental United States.

His trial attracted a lot of attention in the American public communications media, which ridiculed the church and insisted that Murphy was the Galileo of Mormonism. The general contempt provoked by this publicity seriously embarrassed the officers of the church, and they stopped the trial.

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